Update: they came in yesterday and I went for my first run in them today. Left the water pouch at home but brought my phone and they definitely didn’t stay put, I had to pull them up a few time throughout my 5k. They were great when I was walking though, they fit well and look awesome and I think they’ll be really good when I don’t go out with my phone, I just haven’t found an app that adjusts the beat of the music to match your steps that I can play from just my watch.